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Post by onthejob on Nov 6, 2013 9:11:11 GMT -5
And he won't pay into healthcare if the new contract isn't approved before he's hired.
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Post by turninblue on Nov 6, 2013 10:25:19 GMT -5
Regrets.
What are u talking about. Did a mof pass away last night? I'm not asking for name. But what command? AA in Nassau?
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Post by regrets on Nov 6, 2013 12:23:19 GMT -5
Yes, SIS detective. AA.
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Post by jmandmj on Nov 6, 2013 12:43:48 GMT -5
I wonder, if the county gives someone a COE and then backs out and that person lost another job because of it are they possibly civilly liable? It has been so long I forget exactly what the letter says. It seems to me that if they are giving you a COE and then forbidding you to take another job they have to go through with it. Of course this county does not honor contracts so there is that to think about.
Oh and he would have to pay into health care. While tier is based upon when he first entered a pension system in NYS the medical will be when he is hired by NCPD.
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Post by tensevencop on Nov 6, 2013 13:11:38 GMT -5
A more important question will be how many people will take this job now being frozen for an indefinite amount of time? Why anyone would leave a current law enforcement job for this just boggles my mind and I sit and wonder how this person ever passed their psych portion of the hiring process..
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Post by zzzz on Nov 6, 2013 13:25:36 GMT -5
IMO..... Bottom line here is this job is still way better then NYPD. New guys hired are gonna be at low pay for a few years anyway.... So for them the freeze really doesn't effect them too bad as compared to a 1% or senior guy. No roll calls here, less bosses up your ass, work schedule is far better, no impact BS, very few "details." Etc. don't forget DiBlasio was just elected there. Enough said. NYC crime will be up across the board within 4 years. Also I feel as soon as PBA elections are over something will get done about our contract mess. It certainly is not gonna be good but we will get unfrozen and give up mightily.... Carver and Idiot Ed know that no matter which step your at.... Most if not all made 100k+ with OT this year. Doesn't mean guys are not hurting.... I for one NEED to get unfrozen desperately. Something will happen soon..... Politics politics politics....it all sucks but we have no clout to do anything but wait
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Post by tensevencop on Nov 6, 2013 14:23:50 GMT -5
I still don't get how the county can hire and take on additional salaries when they aren't honoring the current ones. Why don't our attorneys go after that aspect? Ohhh thats right because they are just as useless as the current pba board. So glad they got a 33% raise, they definitely deserved it.
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Post by OTJrook on Nov 6, 2013 18:56:14 GMT -5
Another option instead of going back to NYPD would have been to take the 2012 NCPD exam and put yourself on the village list. Then at least you would have to do another academy.
Don't know who told you that you would be placed in tier 6 if you went back to the nypd but Joe Maccone at the pension section (the guy who gives the pension seminars) would have an answer. You can email him. Hopefully your exam with NYPD hasn't expired yet and you can still transfer back and get into the July 2014 academy.
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Post by SCPD Ret. on Nov 6, 2013 20:40:35 GMT -5
As a former city guy w some time on, I wouldn't suggest coming here. First off NIFA is here to stay. Even in the miracle that a deal happens, NIFA will come back & freeze us all at the end of the deal, say 2017. So u would be where I am now, stuck in steps for a long time. City also has variable supp which we don't & that is huge. City is also a 1 year best year for your pension. Here it is avg of your 3 consecutive best years...when I transferred here I never heard of nifa. At the time I thought it was a no brainer. But u get to have all the facts before making your decision. And even though we are short on guys, they can always hold u hostage & then u have to fear of being laid off. Another huge issue is health care. Coming here out health care is not locked in & if u come after that proposed deal, you will be paying into health care & your pension. Good luck! Just an FYI......although the $$ on paper of your variable supp look good, it's NOT part of your pension and gets the shvt knocked out of it in taxes. Smarter move is a 457 ( deferred comp) account. You can access it as soon as you retire, no age minimum, and doesn't get taxed at a higher rate like the supp does. |
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Post by tornado on Nov 6, 2013 21:01:48 GMT -5
I believe if you were hired in the City from 2000 until 2009, it was your last year, not the 3-year average. Pre-2000 hires have that option, if I'm not mistaken. 2009-on hires are fvcked.
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Post by beltfed on Nov 11, 2013 15:36:58 GMT -5
interesting timing on the november 4th conditional offers of employment, considering myself and several other applicants got letters from villages the next day! this seems so wrong. Don't get me wrong i intended on taking the job but it would have at least been nice to have the option of interviewing for a village that means i dont need to do another academy and im not frozen! well played ncpd You may have made a mistake in holding out for the county. Alot of these village jobs are pretty good. High paying and great benefits. |
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Post by beltfed on Nov 11, 2013 15:39:07 GMT -5
I wonder, if the county gives someone a COE and then backs out and that person lost another job because of it are they possibly civilly liable? It has been so long I forget exactly what the letter says. It seems to me that if they are giving you a COE and then forbidding you to take another job they have to go through with it. Of course this county does not honor contracts so there is that to think about. Oh and he would have to pay into health care. While tier is based upon when he first entered a pension system in NYS the medical will be when he is hired by NCPD. I don't think so. That's why they make sure it's "conditional". No liability that way. |
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Post by beltfed on Nov 11, 2013 15:44:13 GMT -5
I still don't get how the county can hire and take on additional salaries when they aren't honoring the current ones. Why don't our attorneys go after that aspect? Ohhh thats right because they are just as useless as the current pba board. So glad they got a 33% raise, they definitely deserved it. Yup. I see the Board did pretty good for themselves with some nice increases back in 2011 while the rest of us had to sit back and wait for contractual increases that have yet to arrive. |
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Post by target on Nov 12, 2013 9:16:07 GMT -5
If he has 8 years on with the city he will not be paying into the pension when he transfers to NCPD. He will be put into tier 2 non contributory pension in the PFRS. Once you sign the conditional offer of employment with NCPD you can no longer be interviewed by a village. For example you signed your COE on the Nov 4th and you got a letter from a village today. The first thing they will ask you when you sit for the interview is...did you sign a COE with nassau? Call the village and ask them. I signed the COE back on September 16th and now there's people with scores lower than me being called for villages. Now adays the villages are the way to go. Godd bennies and pay. Didn't one of the villages in Suffolk sign a 15 year contract last year? I think it may have been Northport and they already had a top salary of 105k. Not too shabby. |
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Post by OTJrook on Nov 12, 2013 21:19:59 GMT -5
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