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Post by pdcn63 on Jan 26, 2014 19:28:23 GMT -5
Jimmy will go down as the worst PBA president in the history of this Department. the other presidents were probably just as useless, they just never had NIFA to deal with... carver has been put in the worst situation out of all of them but i think by now if he was any good he should have been able to come up with something... i do not know if he is worse then any of the other presidents but he definitely is not any better |
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Post by pdcn63 on Jan 26, 2014 19:31:04 GMT -5
Not trying to start rumors just trying to see if facts are true. Another group i belong to has the BOG meeting today. Can anyone confirm that? they can have as many " BOG" meetings as they want.. NIFA is not going to agree to anything which gives us all the steps so you can forget about it... nifa will drag this on for 3 years and not have to pay any interest on the money, why would they settle now... just sell your house and get a cheaper one or start budgeting better because i hate to tell you its going to be the same for awhile... i am already content with that fact |
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Post by pdcn63 on Jan 26, 2014 19:52:08 GMT -5
Not trying to start rumors just trying to see if facts are true. Another group i belong to has the BOG meeting today. Can anyone confirm that? BUT just for fun if you hear about the possible " deal" and what it may be tell us... id like to laugh at it |
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Post by tiredofwaiting on Jan 27, 2014 7:52:59 GMT -5
Instead of rumors we need to start thinking of what course of action we should take. I have no confidence in the PBA board to get anything done. I have heard that a few guys have been speaking with other labor attorneys and talking about filing our own lawsuit. The PBA and the attorneys have not been aggressive enough with their arguments and actions in trying to get the wage freeze settled. A new lawsuit needs to be filed by the membership to include Gov Cuomo, NYS legislature, NIFA, Mangano, County legislature and Maragos as defendants. Then we need to look into every backdoor deal, contacts(private and public), raises, and patronage jobs that have been given out during the wage freeze. The attorneys also need to go after every one of these people including the NIFA board members, look into their past, families, all the sleeze deals that have been done and then audit the money that NIFA has spent while the wage freeze in place. NIFA has an open checkbook with the county sales tax revenue with no accountability on how they spend it.
Everyone needs to wake up and realize that nothing will get done until some real pressure is put on these people. We need to start getting real nasty and this PBA does not have the guts or the balls to do it.
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Post by pdcn63 on Jan 27, 2014 9:20:26 GMT -5
lets hold off on that and hear about the rumor that going around about tomorrow
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 9:48:40 GMT -5
We need to storm the office and dethrone these so called PBA office!
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Post by zzzz on Jan 27, 2014 9:55:28 GMT -5
Yes i agree that all options need to be explored but who will step up and do it?  There are about 500 guys in steps. So 1 of 500 people will need to explore options legal options. Maybe a delegate in steps can take the lead?? On the other hand again come Feb 1st if we dont hear anything, a picket will happen shortly after so hopefully more and more people will support it. Myself and others are not waiting for Jimmy's bullshvt anymore. We need action now!!! |
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Post by pdcn63 on Jan 27, 2014 20:31:37 GMT -5
nothing is happening by feb 1st... i was hearing big things about tomorrow and that was BS.. SERIOUSLY NOTHING IS HAPPENING.. so if you want to picket, picket now
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 21:13:59 GMT -5
Nothing will happen soon.
stop dreaming boys.
Only way we can get this done by standing together against NIFA.
Dont give back anything. We already did give millions in concession in last contract and we did not get what we had promised to us.
It cant get worst than this.
Let them know we are in it all the way.
Dont show any weakness.
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Post by overthecap on Jan 27, 2014 21:58:43 GMT -5
Is this man your friend?
January 24, 2014 4:00 AM
Cuomo, Still the Prince of Darkness
New York’s governor has a long history of nasty behavior toward opponents. By Andrew Stiles
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New York governor Andrew Cuomo recently berated conservatives — including pro-lifers, Second Amendment supporters, and gay-marriage opponents — as people who “have no place in the state of New York.” But Cuomo has a long history of behaving like a schoolyard bully.
Just last week, former Binghamton mayor Matthew Ryan, a Democrat, told a local radio station that because of his policy disagreements with Cuomo, on fracking and pension reform, he wound up on the governor’s “s*** list.” Over the past two years, Cuomo refused to invite him to local events “because of his dislike of me,” Ryan said, adding that “nobody likes” the governor because “he’s a very powerful guy who’s very vindictive, and if you get in his way, he’ll try to crush you.”
State comptroller Thomas DiNapoli, also a Democrat, was another politician on Cuomo’s list of enemies, Ryan said. In August 2013, after DiNapoli had issued a series of critical reports on the state government’s fiscal management, Cuomo retaliated by ordering an audit of the comptroller’s office, which uncovered “problems that are putting retirees and taxpayers at significant risk.”
In May 2013, the Seneca Nation of Indians accused Cuomo of using “playground bully tactics” during a dispute over a casino-rights agreement in western New York. Cuomo suggested that state lawmakers would allow an established casino pact to expire in 2016 unless the Seneca coughed up more than $550 million in revenue.
Cuomo’s administration also came under fire in February of last year for the seemingly petty ousting of state employee Mike Fayette, who committed the unforgivable offense of speaking to the press without prior approval from Albany (even though Fayette had praised Cuomo in his remarks to the Adirondack Daily Enterprise about the administration’s handling of Tropical Storm Irene). A top Cuomo aide then took to the airwaves to disparage Fayette, citing an extensive disciplinary record. “If that were the issue here, the only issue, there would not have been a termination,” the aide said.
Cuomo’s “well-deserved reputation for ruthlessness,” in the words of New York journalist and radio personality Alan Chartock, dates back years. “He was just vicious,” a longtime Democratic operative told the New York Post in 2009. “If he got involved in something, people were terrorized.” That same year, according to the New York Times, Cuomo had reportedly urged state political and labor leaders not to back Caroline Kennedy — the cousin of his ex-wife, Kerry Kennedy — in the race to succeed Hillary Clinton in the U.S. Senate.
As secretary of Housing and Urban Development during the Clinton administration, Cuomo pressured lenders to expand loans to “low- and moderate-income families,” a move that many have argued helped initiate the housing bubble that led to the crash of 2007–08. Decades earlier, when his father, Mario, was governor, Andrew’s antics earned him the nickname “Prince of Darkness.”
The younger Cuomo, who managed his father’s 1982 gubernatorial campaign, is widely thought to have been responsible for a controversial “Vote for Cuomo, Not the Homo” billboard that played up the notion that New York mayor Ed Koch was gay; Koch at the time was running against Mario Cuomo in the Democratic primary.
Such tactics would no doubt “have no place in the state of New York” these days. Bullies, on the other hand, are still welcome.
— Andrew Stiles is a political reporter for National Review Online.
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Post by overthecap on Jan 27, 2014 22:23:37 GMT -5
How about this guy? Eye on the Island By Mike Barry ‘Kaiman 2017’ Gets Cuomo’s Endorsement Governor Andrew Cuomo’s appointment of Jon Kaiman as the Nassau Interim Finance Authority’s (NIFA) chairman marked the unofficial launch of Kaiman’s 2017 bid for Nassau County executive. How else to explain the timing of the governor’s announcement (Sept. 19)? It came only nine days after former County Executive Tom Suozzi won a convincing victory over Roslyn school board member Adam Haber in a contested Democratic primary for Nassau County executive. Suozzi made an unsuccessful gubernatorial bid in 2006; so Cuomo, looking down the road, has reason to believe Suozzi might make another run for governor in 2018. Cuomo could be seeking a third term that same year. The NIFA-related news also came a few days before Kaiman, a Great Neck resident who considered running for county executive in 2013 before declining to do so, stepped down as North Hempstead town supervisor to take a full-job position in the Cuomo administration. Kaiman is the governor’s special advisor for Long Island Storm Recovery, an appointment tied to the launch this summer of the New York Rising Community Reconstruction Program, a post-Sandy rebuilding initiative. So, to recap, Suozzi wins the Democratic primary, and Cuomo then elevates Kaiman to a position that, no matter the outcome of the Tuesday, Nov. 5 general election for county executive, gives Kaiman outsized influence over Nassau County government as chair of the seven-member NIFA board of directors. Five of the seven NIFA board members, none of whom are paid, are now Cuomo appointees because on the same day the governor tapped Kaiman for the chairman’s position, he also named Paul Annunziato, a first vice president and financial advisor for Morgan Stanley who resides in Mill Neck, and Lester Petracca, president of Triangle Equities and a Manhasset resident, as NIFA directors. To be sure, Albany’s renewed interest in Nassau’s fiscal affairs—NIFA was created in 2000 — might have been sparked by a condescending statement NIFA issued on Sept. 9. To sample the missive’s tone, check out the first two sentences: “The Board and staff of NIFA have yet to receive a copy of the proposed agreement with the Police Benevolent Association (PBA) despite its apparent approval by the office of the County Executive and its submission by the leadership of the PBA to their board of governors. However, given recent reports, we believe that all the parties involved must be aware — or reminded — of certain major preconditions that must be met in any attempt to fashion an agreement.” The NIFA statement then lists other things about which the county’s decision-makers must either be aware of, or reminded of. Take that, County Executive Ed Mangano and Nassau PBA president James Carver! Before NIFA issued its Sept. 9 manifesto about a rumored accord between the Mangano administration and the PBA, someone in the NIFA inner circle should have been aware of, or reminded of, the governor’s ability to fill vacancies and otherwise rock a NIFA director’s world at a moment’s notice, especially if a director’s term has expired. Alas, who could have envisioned that blasting County Executive Mangano, a Republican, would meet with disapproval in the governor’s office? The answer: savvy people who know Democratic office holders don’t always wish prospective Democratic rivals electoral success. The Mangano administration may still face tough scrutiny from the newly-constituted NIFA board so that NIFA retains credibility with the general public and Newsday’s editorial board, a major shareholder in Suozzi, Inc., since the stock was first offered to the county’s voters in 2001. The county executive’s 2014 budget proposal, as well as the county executive’s multi-year spending plan, must first win approval from NIFA, and NIFA will likely offer a spirited critique of Nassau’s current fiscal condition. The view here, however, is that Mangano will not be on the receiving end of any future NIFA broadsides akin to the one sent his way on Sept. 9. The 2013 Cuomo-Kaiman alliance could of course meet the same fate as the partnership years ago between Mayor Michael Bloomberg and City Council Speaker Christine Quinn. Both the mayor and the speaker were riding high in 2009, and yet New York City’s voters wanted both of them off the public stage in 2013. Kaiman 2017 has set sail, but who knows how many Nassau voters will want to jump on board his county executive campaign four years from now? In the short term, however, Cuomo, Kaiman and Mangano share a common goal: making a Suozzi comeback more difficult. |
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Post by unregistered5150 on Jan 28, 2014 2:48:53 GMT -5
Call me stupid and naive (which I know many of you will), but why would you think that the PBA would come run back to us with what ever deal they are working on. The last time it leaked out information, Carver had to shut his Facebook account down from all the posts. His e-mail blew up. What ever they are accomplishing (or not), will not be brought to us until they think we need to vote on it. The MAO in September came out of no where. They worked it out and then we were informed. Trust me, I am in dire straits like many others on here. It has taken way to long for this to work itself out, and yet I still try to remain optimistic (with little success).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 3:05:40 GMT -5
I will call you " Full of shvt".
we waited enough to hear from PBA.
PBA need to step up their game if they have any!
We been in dark for such a long time.
Its time for PBA to shine.
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Post by nybuild1 on Jan 28, 2014 4:01:28 GMT -5
I will call you " Full of shvt". we waited enough to hear from PBA. PBA need to step up their game if they have any! We been in dark for such a long time. Its time for PBA to shine.[/quote But you know where we're at. NIFA proposed that deal. Carver said no. That took three years. Do you really believe things will happen on a weekly basis? Do you really need an email every week to tell you negotiations continue as does the lawsuit? ] |
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Post by unregistered5150 on Jan 28, 2014 4:06:18 GMT -5
That is just my opinion. Obviously everyone has a friend who is pumping them with PBA info, and everyone is running to the forums to post what they heard and what they were told. I am just observing what I am seeing here and out on the streets with our peers. The stress of the past 3 years is enough. But now we are stressing more and more over the BS we read on here. This gets us all worked up and stressed out.
Maybe I am full of shvt. I agree totally that Jimmy and the boys need to step up and let all this political BS between the union, the county and NIFA be put aside and work out this deal NOW!! Why does another union have to go to a public meeting and question NIFA about the county wage freeze. How come our union is not there EVERY NIFA public meeting asking the same question over and over and over!!
And looser you are right we have been kept in the dark way too long. It doesn't take long for our union to send out a weekly e-mail to let us know what is going on. A simple "we are meeting with the county again this week" or "NIFA has asked us to meet with them over the weekend" Just this simple task would at least show more than they do now.
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There are about 500 guys in steps. So 1 of 500 people will need to explore options legal options. Maybe a delegate in steps can take the lead?? On the other hand again come Feb 1st if we dont hear anything, a picket will happen shortly after so hopefully more and more people will support it. Myself and others are not waiting for Jimmy's bullshvt anymore. We need action now!!!