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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 19:25:13 GMT -5
You guys keep whining about lack of info from Carver yet you post nonsense rumors and then cry when nothing happens. How about no more rumors? It's almost like certain people on this board are going out of their way to divide the membership. TROLL ALERT.
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Post by coots on Jan 29, 2014 0:44:12 GMT -5
Trubled - Old timers will tell you they are nothing but rumormongers. We had them back in the day when we sat in the RMP's and the guy sitting next to you in his car would espouse "first hand info", and let me tell you we had a lot of "know it all's." When all was said and done what they said was entirely untrue. Now they sit behind their keyboards and churn up the rumor mill and sit back and laugh at the ones who get all worked up and believe them. Rumormongers have been around for ages, take everything they say with a grain of salt. Unless you hear it from the horses mouth, in this case Carver himself, or from the official PBA website, or better yet newsday (who is waiting with a salivating mouth to condemn any contract you fellas get) Like I said before, take each and every "rumor" with a grain of salt.
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Post by inthebusiness on Jan 29, 2014 11:05:03 GMT -5
I am not going to attempt to espouse first hand knowledge as you put it. I won't be a rumormonger as you put it. I do have a question for you though. Please cut and paste one example on these threads that has been shown to be a false rumor? Give me one and I will apologize for my fellow brothers stuck in steps. What I read is members of service expressing their well founded stress and anxiety. They posted about an email to come and Tuesday and it came. Then what followed is threads of their opinions. I ask you, is that not what this forum is for? Is it not the NCPD rant where members can come and well- rant. The threads are a collaboration of our brothers sharing their own individual opinions. If you want to come onto this forum and articulate why you disagree we welcome the conversation. However who are you trubled to come on here and call someone else a troll for simply expressing their angst and frustration at what they feel is failing representation. I agree and disagree with many things said in here. I have posted my opinions many times. But I can tell you that what I see as your attempt to shut down pdcn63 god given right to speak his mind is wrong.
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Post by redstone14 on Jan 29, 2014 12:16:18 GMT -5
Rumors are part of the job, probably any job. If taken with a grain of salt they won't hurt anyone. I heard a rumor that they were going to build a new First Pct in Roosevelt for 30 years, still waiting....
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Post by turninblue on Jan 29, 2014 12:38:33 GMT -5
..... is members of service expressing their...... did you forget your in Nassau now bud? TB
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Post by coots on Jan 29, 2014 13:08:08 GMT -5
First...Do you not know that ed mangano has his spies on this forum...He hears about all the infighting and frustration you guys are going through. He's laughing in his boots. He sees that you are fed up with carver and know all he has to do is wait it out and you will take whatever he has to offer you.
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Post by oscarthomas on Jan 29, 2014 14:19:25 GMT -5
Redstone, when was the last time you were down in baldwin? They have started work on the new building.
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Post by inthebusiness on Jan 29, 2014 17:26:05 GMT -5
..... is members of service expressing their...... did you forget your in Nassau now bud? TB Members of service is an on the job term used by police departments across the country. I know exactly where I am. Nassau likes to pick and choose what on the job terms they want to take from the city while telling those of us from the city that we have to forget where we came from. I don't begrudge someone who was fortunate enough to start here and I love all my brothers no matter what shade of blue they wear. Remember your in Nassau next time you use the term bus instead of ambulance or hats n bats instead of baton and riot helmet. I'm on the job. I'll use what terms I see fit without care or concern for your insecurities in my using these terms. Have a good one my brother. Have a good swing (another city term)
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Post by regrets on Jan 29, 2014 17:38:18 GMT -5
I'm with inthebusiness! Completely agree.
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Post by inthebusiness on Jan 29, 2014 17:50:26 GMT -5
First...Do you not know that ed mangano has his spies on this forum...He hears about all the infighting and frustration you guys are going through. He's laughing in his boots. He sees that you are fed up with carver and know all he has to do is wait it out and you will take whatever he has to offer you. Then I say this to you king ed. Watch as your 60 million dollar overtime budget jumps and grows ever higher. Enjoy paying the bill from the general fund. Morale on this job is crashing. This small amount of infighting is only us trying to decide which tactic is better fit to defeating you and your cronies who have illegally frozen my wages and violated my constitutional rights. While I'm a month and a half behind on my mortgage and my credit is destroyed I can still smile at night. More cops are retiring and you can't hire. The overtime budget is going to double before you know it. The FAS of pensions are going to continue to get larger enraging Albany. We are going to win the lawsuit. You will pay all of us every dime you owe on 9% interest. You will be remembered as one of the worst county executives of Nassau county. Are you hearing us ed? You reading me now? Many many years from now you are going to be sitting in your office looking at the court judgement. It would if been cheaper to honor our contract and keep hiring new cops will be your only thought as you look at that judgement and the amount of money it cost to staff this department on a day to day basis due to you depleting this job of man power. Tell the public the truth. Minimum manning is just that. MINIMUM. that means the least amount, the lowest acceptable level. You want to reduce the minimum amount of cops on patrol at one time? Really ed. Is that really what you want? So what lower amount is good for you? Is the public hearing this?Ed mangano wants to lower the amount of cops on the road at any given time. I guess depleting all our other units is not enough? How about the smoke and mirror show put on by you magicians in the palace when it comes to combating narcotics in this county. How many times has the illegal prescription pill problem or herion problem been on the cover of newsday in the last 12 months ? Why don't you tell the public how many detectives are really assigned to narcotics and vice squad? It's a deplorable and disgustingly low amount. C'mon coots. I'm not afraid for Ed to here us, see us. He should be afraid of us because we know the truth. I'm not shook. Who else is with me? Make no mistake ed. We are united. We will win. Do your job and make the tuff decisions you were hired to make. Your like a grown man living in his own home, with his own family and responsibilities yet hiding behind nifa like a child standing behind his parents when it comes to county business. Do your job that you were elected to do. You balance your budget at home by selling your kids toys or clothing ? Do you decide to do a renovation on your home when you have outstanding debt? Probably not. This is common sense. Well this is your home and it's time to clean house. You want nifa to leave. Look in the mirror.
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Post by overthecap on Jan 29, 2014 18:08:10 GMT -5
First...Do you not know that ed mangano has his spies on this forum...He hears about all the infighting and frustration you guys are going through. He's laughing in his boots. He sees that you are fed up with carver and know all he has to do is wait it out and you will take whatever he has to offer you. Then I say this to you king ed. Watch as your 60 million dollar overtime budget jumps and grows ever higher. Enjoy paying the bill from the general fund. Morale on this job is crashing. This small amount if infighting is only us trying to decide which tactic is better fit to defeating you and your cronies who have illegally frozen my wages and violated my constitutional rights. While I'm a month and a half behind on my mortgage and my credit is destroyed I can still smile at night. More cops are retiring and you can't hire. The overtime budget is going to double before you know it. The FAS of pensions are going to continue to get larger enraging Albany. We are going to win the lawsuit. You will pay all if us every dime you owe on 9% interest. You will be remembered as one if the worst county executives of Nassau county. Are you hearing us ed? You reading me now? Many many years from now you are going to be sitting in your office looking at the court judgement. It would if been cheaper to honor our contract and keep hiring new cops will be your only thought as you look at that judgement and the amount of money it cost to staff this department on a day to day basis. Tell the public the truth. Minimum manning is just that. MINIMUM. that means the least amount, the lowest acceptable level. You want to reduce the minimum amount of cops on patrol at one time? Really ed. Is that really what you want? So what lower amount is good for you? Is the public hearing this. Ed mangano wants to lower the amount if cops on the road at any given time. I guess depleting all our other units is not enough? How about the smoke and mirror show put on by you magicians when it comes to combating narcotics in this county. How many times has the illegal prescription pill problem or herion problem been on the cover of newsday in the last 12 months ? Why don't you tell the public how many detectives are really assigned to narcotics and vice squad? It's a deplorable and disgustingly low amount. C'mon coots. I'm not afraid for Ed to here us, see us. He should be afraid of us because we know the truth. I'm not shook. Who else is with me? Make no mistake ed. We are united. We will win. Do your job and make the tuff decisions you were hired to make. Your like a grown man living in his own home, with his own family and responsibilities yet hiding behind nifa like a child standing behind his parents when it comes to county business. Do your job that you were elected to do. You balance your budget at home by selling your kids toys or clothing ? Do you decide to do a renovation on your home when you have outstanding debt? Probably not. This is common sense. Well this is your home and it's time to clean house. You want nifa to leave. Look in the mirror. KUDOS! Nice post. Good Start.
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Post by ncpdretired on Jan 29, 2014 18:38:39 GMT -5
in the business is giving the CE the business!!!!!
GREAT READ……………...
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Post by overthecap on Jan 30, 2014 15:42:54 GMT -5
Join us in our fight for media fairness
Message from xxxxx xxxxx, President
Here's an idea, go on record with the media.
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Post by tiredofwaiting on Jan 30, 2014 17:32:27 GMT -5
Join us in our fight for media fairness Message from xxxxx xxxxx, President Here's an idea, go on record with the media. Carver proves everyday he has no balls! He will call out Newsday and Dolan about all the bad press but he will not call out Mangano and NIFA on what they are doing to us. I think what Mangano and NIFA are doing to us is much worse than Newsday. Have some balls Carver and start calling out the people who are really doing the damage to us and this job.
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Post by ncpdretired on Jan 30, 2014 18:03:28 GMT -5
I don;t know if your newday has a letter to the editor column, BUT, BOY- OH- BOY would inthebusiness's letter of 1/29/14 @5:50PM be an eye opener to the folks in the County. That is, if the newspaper would ever consider printing ,it AS Written, nothing left out nor added….
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