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Post by kablaam on Jan 25, 2012 18:46:24 GMT -5
Anyone carry/carried one, what kind, where and any thoughts.
Looking to carry small semi or revolver, seen a few malfunctions of our sigs at the range, when you need them mosts, murphys law.
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bigjob
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Post by bigjob on Jan 25, 2012 18:56:17 GMT -5
S&W 340PD. Expensive but well worth it. This 5 shot fires no matter what you do to it. It's so light weight you can carry it anywhere and everywhere. On you ankle, you wont even feel it. wearing sweatpants, just clip it to the waistband, no belt needed. The one disclaimer is it is so light that shooting the fifty rounds at the range is like smacking your hand with a hammer.
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Post by pohairbag on Jan 25, 2012 19:25:03 GMT -5
Is that a 40 or a 9?
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Post by lionsden on Jan 25, 2012 19:36:53 GMT -5
Glock 26. No brainer in my opinion. 10+1 rounds of 9mm+p and reload in seconds with magazines. Had the gun for years and have fired thousands of rounds through it without 1 single malfunction. Being a glock it is known for working even when it's wet, dirty and no oil. Almost completely rust-proof. The frame size is very comparable to a 2" .38 but you get twice as many rounds and don't have to deal with speedloaders or fumbling with reloading individual rounds god forbid you have to put more down the barrel. Its on our approved list so indemnification is not an issue either. The only drawback is that since we transistioned to the .40cal the glock 27 is the .40 cal equivalent but has yet to be placed on our approved list so you may want to hold off until our range approves it if you want the increased stopping power of the .40.
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Post by lionsden on Jan 25, 2012 19:39:01 GMT -5
The S&W 340 is a 5 shot revolver. chambered in .38 special or .357. its a polymer airweight |
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Post by tornado on Jan 25, 2012 19:48:54 GMT -5
SIG-Sauer 239, Glock 26 or S&W Tactical....
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Post by lionsden on Jan 25, 2012 19:57:12 GMT -5
SIG-Sauer 239, Glock 26 or S&W Tactical.... All nice guns only issue with the S&W tac is that it normally has the magazine disconect safety. Which means that if the magazine is not seated corectly then even the one chambered round will not fire. That being said all three guns will serve you well. The S&W 340 or any S&W 2"revolver are great reliable guns also that would make a great backup/ off duty. But for me the Glock26 is the top dog. |
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Post by tornado on Jan 25, 2012 20:01:39 GMT -5
A guy at work just bought the S&W Tactical. He traded in the Kahr K9 he had, so he had to pay little on top. I forget the model #, just that it said "Tactical" on it and it felt good both in the strong hand and the weak hand.
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bigjob
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Post by bigjob on Jan 25, 2012 22:35:00 GMT -5
Can't say I ever shot the glock. It does have twice the capacity and is also twice the weight. If you were looking for a backup, you want one that you will always carry. Sticking any 9mm or 40 on your ankle or vest is annoying at best. I've done plenty of running with the 340PD on my ankle and never gave it a second thought. Like i said before holster clips right on the waist band of running shorts, no belt needed. Goes great on the ankle in a leather formed holster under a suit. In the pocket of a pair of jeans. A back up or off duty is only good if you carry it.
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Post by fiveo on Jan 26, 2012 1:34:16 GMT -5
I've been carrying the S&W .38 Airweight for awhile now and love it. It's the silver one, not the black one. It's about $400 cheaper than the black one and only weighs a tiny bit more. It's a 5 shot revolver. What I like about it is that it's light and very concealable, therefore I carry it A LOT. What I hate about it is because it's an Airweight, the recoil is huge on it and by the time you're finished with 50 rounds your hand is killing you. But, when the crap hits the fan, I want to make sure I have a gun on me and like I said, I almost always carry it. And, if you can't get 'em in 5 shots you're f*cked anyway.
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Post by redstone14 on Jan 26, 2012 3:00:14 GMT -5
But, when the crap hits the fan, I want to make sure I have a gun on me and like I said, I almost always carry it. And, if you can't get 'em in 5 shots you're f*cked anyway. Sometimes we over think these things and buy too much gun. A backup is just that. It's a last chance to extract yourself from a really bad situation. Your feet are your first backup. Years ago guys were carrying 2 shot derringers or little .25 autos. There are a lot more choices now but the 5 shot revolver is still hard to beat for something that you will always carry and will always work. |
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Post by oldsarge on Jan 26, 2012 5:04:05 GMT -5
I have been teaching firearms for ten years now since I retired. I deal with questions like yours every day. I would like to offer you some thoughts on your decision making process.
1. If you are going to a gunfight, bring a gun.
2. The size shape caliber make model don't matter, just bring it.
3. always carry it in a safe carrying system, where it can be accessed easily. Every cop I know has an ankle holster and a shoulder holster gathering dust somewhere.
4. Carry it, draw it every time from exactly the same place. Practice practice practice.
Why do I say this? The more choices you have under stress, (gunfights are stressfull) The longer your decision making process will be.
You are handicapped by your training. When under stress you will immediately revert to your most practiced training. In other words you will always go to the hip for the gun you carry every day. If the primary firearm, doesn't work then go to your strong side hip for the backup gun in your pocket holster.
Always remember that your malfunction drill takes less time to perform then bending down, pulling up your trouser leg, with your off hand and pulling out your backup, hoping it doesn't get caught in the hem of the pants, the holster or your droopy socks.
Carry the largest caliber backup firearm that you can comfortably keep on you everyday of your life. In a crisis, 2 shots in your opponents face with a .22 is more effective then a .45 you left home because it is a hand cannon.
Just remember the Rules and Regs regarding odd caliber firearms. They wrote that one for me.!!!! I used a .44 special once. It worked. The commissh didn't laugh. They couldn't burn me. Imagine the smile I had when I discovered they wrote a brand new rule just for me! It didn't do my career any good, but I have 5 grandchildren and a pension I would have never collected if I didn't have a backup.
Be safe, practice practice practice.
Amateurs practice till they get it right.
Professionals practice till they can't get it wrong.
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Post by ncpdretired on Jan 26, 2012 9:36:33 GMT -5
A very timely subject. I am going this weekend to a gun show to purchase either one of two guns, a Kahr PM40 or a Kel tek PF9, both 9mm. I live almost all the time in Shorts and a golf shirt so I almost never carry my old Taurus 9mm which I traded for my old off duty gun many years ago, going from a wheel gun to an automatic. Both the guns I mentioned are real small and can fit in my pocket, which is what I am looking for. I've handled both and its hard to believe that they are only 5" long and weigh 18 and 14 ounces respectively. Sarge, you seem to have some experience here, any thoughts?
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Post by ncpdretired on Jan 26, 2012 9:50:48 GMT -5
My Error, the Kahr is a PM9 not a 40 cal. The Kahr is twice the price of the Kel Tek so I might be swayed.
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Post by oldsarge on Jan 26, 2012 10:27:11 GMT -5
My own personal preference between a Kahr and a Kel Tec is the Kahr any day. Hell I'd rather have a sharp stick over a kel tec.
My personal gun is a springfield xd compact in 9mm. a little bulkier than the kahr but very lefty friendly. A 19 round capacity is rather cool also. The gun fits me and my hand.
I have simplified my choices under stress. I own a springfield xd in 9, 40, and 45. I always place my gun and spare mag in the same locations.
Go to a store where they will let you at least hold the gun in your hands. If it don't fit right in the store it won't fit right in six months either.
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