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Post by unregistered5150 on Jan 20, 2014 19:12:30 GMT -5
The overtime will cost more than hiring new guys. Top pay guys with 20 +years has a higher OT rate and they are grabbing a lot of OT to pad their pensions. Their pension numbers go up, causing them to be paid higher pensions for many years. They need to hire and they know it. This is a cat and mouse game now between them and us.
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Post by pdcn63 on Jan 20, 2014 20:50:43 GMT -5
Well since the meeting which was 4 days ago has carver had any meetings with NIFA... according to him he would like a deal done in less then 2 weeks so surely he has met with them numerous times in the last four days right??... I mean in the last 6 months according to him he has probably met with them 50 times and was not able to work something out.
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Post by inthebusiness on Jan 20, 2014 20:53:58 GMT -5
Tired of waiting, that was a phenomenal explanation of why it is NIFA's blame to share. The rant was full of details and angered emotion. Love it. You got me. I'm in.
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Post by fakelottotix on Jan 20, 2014 22:22:12 GMT -5
Thank GOD people in this union are finally waking up. It's about time and years late, but the ideas and passion in the last few weeks has been exactly what has been lacking in this fight for 3 years now. Jimmy has tried the be nice and try to not burn ANY bridges approach for too long now and it hasn't worked. An organized effort to get ALL of us UNFROZEN with a better plan of action and more political pressure is what is needed. It needs to be professional and handled with dignity, but it also needs to be loud and have an affect on the people that have kept us frozen....
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Post by onthejob on Jan 20, 2014 22:43:58 GMT -5
It's cheaper for the county to pay the overtime than hire new classes. The major problem with our job is that most cops can retire by 2015 and if they don't hire by then there won't be enough cops to order in. Once details are stripped they will never be replaced.
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Post by sig4life on Jan 21, 2014 21:45:20 GMT -5
Well I have felt as well that a date needs to be set my the membership on when WE the membership will take the gloves off I also feel by the 3 year anniversary if there isn't an approved "deal" in front of us ready to vote on then we go on the offensive. Maybe a meeting of the county workers all unions together should be arranged sometime early February, any effort has to be thought out thoroughly and planned to succeed it can't be a handful of union workers crying with signs for money that lasts two days
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Post by overthecap on Jan 22, 2014 17:59:38 GMT -5
I wish the KID luck! As we all know,,,,,,,,,,, he really doesn't need it. music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/bruce-springsteen-son-becomes-firefighter-does-family-proud-183117798.html
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Post by inthebusiness on Jan 22, 2014 20:13:40 GMT -5
I wish the KID luck! As we all know,,,,,,,,,,, he really doesn't need it. music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/bruce-springsteen-son-becomes-firefighter-does-family-proud-183117798.htmlFvck Bruce Springsteen. While a fathers sins should not be passed down to his son Bruce is a cop-hating liberal asshole. You forget the 44 shots song. FVCK him. I hope there is some senior member ex-cop transfer overs that ride that probie to the point he calls his dad up and says you know what pop, these guys are right - despite your born in the USA song you really are a bleeding heart tree hugging liberal prick.
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Post by overthecap on Jan 22, 2014 20:45:31 GMT -5
I wish the KID luck! As we all know,,,,,,,,,,, he really doesn't need it. music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/bruce-springsteen-son-becomes-firefighter-does-family-proud-183117798.htmlFvck Bruce Springsteen. While a fathers sins should not be passed down to his son Bruce is a cop-hating liberal asshole. You forget the 44 shots song. FVCK him. I hope there is some senior member ex-cop transfer overs that ride that probie to the point he calls his dad up and says you know what pop, these guys are right - despite your born in the USA song you really are a bleeding heart tree hugging liberal prick. Could be, he decided to be 'his own man', as opposed to, 'his old man'. I'd give him a chance.
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Post by unregistered5150 on Jan 22, 2014 21:09:51 GMT -5
I was on stadium detail at Shea when he played 44 shots. Every cop on the detail turned their backs. I walked away. But there were plenty of boo birds. Then the second night he took the song off his play list. DOUCHE SPRINGFIELD
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 22:34:34 GMT -5
Bruce Springsteen is such a douchebag!
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Post by arubavacation on Jan 23, 2014 16:01:59 GMT -5
Wow more Crickets from the PBA. It would be nice to get an update. Writing is on the wall the PBA is comfy with their position and don't want ro ruffle any feathers while they make 220 a year. Time to rise up and take the fight to everyone
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Post by mrwizard on Jan 23, 2014 16:26:19 GMT -5
despite your born in the USA song you really are a bleeding heart tree hugging liberal prick. Try listening to the lyrics in that song. It's anti-Military and anti-American. It turns my stomach every time I hear it at a Fourth of July Fireworks show. Springsteen is a ultra left wing Liberal, anti-American POS. Screw him and his family. If he put his hand out to shake mine, I would spit on it.
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Post by pdcn63 on Feb 1, 2014 16:19:36 GMT -5
There was mention of 14/15 step not getting done because nifa wanted us to "take a leap of faith" and do a deal that only brought us to a certain point and if certain revenues were brought in by the county they would reinstate the other steps. Jimmy said no and in his words said it was more like a "plunge of death". He said that talks are continuing, he has made a counter proposals (no specifics). He also reiterated that no deal will be done that does not get everybody through their steps. On another note, a couple of the 2013 guys showed up. They asked if a deal would include them because they have to make decisions soon if they should stick it out or go back to where they came. It was embarrassing that a handful of guys in the room shouted at them to go back. LOL... you clown.. trying to start trouble when you know damn well guys were saying go back to save them heartache and not go back in a sinister way... now i know what kind of punk you are.. just wanted to confirm
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2014 17:15:39 GMT -5
Oh Snap!
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